Thanks for helping me put some of the pieces togehter on this one. Case capacity is when you fill the whole case up with powder then remove enough to seat the projectile to its correct depth without compression. Similar to Sergeants comments, trail boss is the go, usually 80 of case capacity. 228 for my Star so I might have to try that also. Gives lead cast bullet subsonic loads for all calibers and bullet weights. 228 H&I die must be for a Savage High Power as they were. Thank goodness I have the correct nose punch for it. Only one way to find out, experitentation.Īlso the nose profile on my cast bullet out of the Ideal mold is different than the current Lyman 225415. Maybe the older sizing die is just what this older mold needs to size and lube correctly. The 450 die with the o-ring is almost flat across the top without the tappered lead and the first lube hole much lower in the die. The lead into the top of the die on the 45 sizing die it is much more funnel shaped with the first lube hole very close to the top of the die or where the bullet base first enters into the die. After reading this thread I pulled that sizing die out to look at it. In the ideal box with the mold was an H&I sizing die for the Lyman 45 sizer.
Most rifle loadings are all supersonic, so subsonic loads are specially down-loaded to stay below the speed of sound. In 9mm, most loading data are supersonic. the first to review Black Hills Ammunition 223 Remington 62 Grain Barnes TSX Hollow. I purchased this Ideal mold from an old guy who purchased the mold new, now departed, who shot it successfully in a hornet. All data in this caliber is subsonic but is not normally tagged with the name subsonic. Only logged in customers who Both Black Hills and Lehigh loads are. I used an current H&I die with the o-ring for the 450 and that is the problem I encountered. 225 sizer without deforming them, smearing lead into the lube grooves taking away lube capacity.
They list the 225415 as 49 grains with a normal cast diameter of. I know that the 225415 has had numerous changes since its conception, I just dug out my Lyman 45th edition handbook to check out the mold specs in the back. This thread has really engaged the gray matter for me. 22lr sub?Īpart from anything else just what sort of a twist do you expect down the barrel of your. 223 will have a terrible arc and make hitting things a nightmare, just where are you seeing an advantage of a. 223 (lets forget BC for simplicity) and a 75g sub sonic. 22lr will have the same arc and energy as a 40g sub sonic. 22lr and will have little or no advantage at 100 yards over the. If it is sub sonic then it will be the same speed as your. 223 would certainly have that extra punch for vermin control with little noise. 22 subsonic is not much better than an air rifle, but a. My thoughts are based solely on noise nothing else and to me a.
That got me thinking, no noise but plenty of hitting power at 100 yrds. 17hmr, unless I want something quite ie subsonics. The reason for the original question was based on the fact my. Source: Modern Reloading by Richard Lee, 1996 Ed. Only one load given "start" and "never exceed" figures are the same. I'd sell the LR as I rarely use it other than for braining cage trapped Foxes! I wouldn't even need to re-zero my scope for that.Ĥ5gr bullet over 11.5gr of IMR 4831 for predicted MV of 1085ft/sec with pressure at 10700 CUP and minimum COAL of 1.720". I'd love to work out some sub loads for my Hornet. If you're not doing it often £40 for powder is better than a complete. 22lr.Īs for making the loads, all you'd need to lay out on is a tub of powder. Shot placement will be a little less critical on a Fox than it would be with a. All you have to do is zero with the subs and you don't have anything to think about other than what you would with the. 22lr without thinking about drop? He said 10" drop compared to his normal loads. I can see where that could be useful.Ĭan you shoot at 100 yards with a. 308 doing the same speed will give you around 450ft-lbs. 22lr sub offers about 80ft-lbs at the muzzle if I remember right.